Frequently Asked Questions on Nabion and Messianic Jewry.

What is Nabion’s affiliation?

None. Nabion is totally separate. It has no affiliation with any Christian church, denomination or group. Nor does it have any affiliation with any Jewish group. It cannot receive or broker donations of any kind. Nabion is both a teaching and prophetic outlet. Its mission is to convey to the Hebrew or proselyte that Jesus is the Messiah— God with us. Its mission is also to stop the gentilzing of Jews and to bring them out from scattering back to genuine Messianic synagogues or to the establishing of new synagogues totally independent of any Christian denomination or influence. No Jew is encouraged to leave an established genuine synagogue unless asked to go.

Is this an anti-missionary site?

No. This is a Jewish site. It is just that 2000 years of history has wiped out the origin of the Nazarene movement, thanks largely to Catholicism destroying it in Syria. The movement lasted for hundreds of years. Gentiles have little understanding of this, and are frequently trying to convert Jews. What the conversion amounts to is a conversion to Gentile traditions, not genuine Christianity which was no different than Biblical Judaism. God does not preach customs and culture. It is our sincere hope that this site is a missionary outlet encouraging non Jews to come back to the roots of their faith, too, which is Christ as well. (See Men & Brethren). YOWEH said he would come forth from his holy habitation and dwell amongst us. This is not referring to the rebuilding of the temple. The temple was standing during the prophecy. He who can never be seen as he is said he would come forth and dwell with us. “Behold, he is coming, saith the LORD.” This is Jesus, the very living temple of God.

Are you Judaizing?

No. Judaizing requires that to inherit the Resurrection one must become a Jew. This is neither Jewish (even Orthodox) teaching, and has no basis in scripture. Some “redneck” Jews might have proffered that and this was recorded in the New Testament. But that is not reflective of proper Jewish teaching. Contrariwise, to Gentilize a Jew is not “grace;” it is customs and works. To teach a Gentile of God’s covenant, rightly kept, is not Judaizing or works. It is the heritage of the Hebrews handed down to them by God.

Salvation is not in view. This is a problem with non-Jewish Christian denominations. They are so saturated in passé Gnosticism and anti-Gnosticism that they have it ingrained that salvation is obtained (or reflected) by perfect doctrines and theories. When they become confronted by different customs, cultures, and theories they either judge the other person holding these as “unsaved” or fear for their own salvation. Not so. Too judgmental. The laws and words of God tell us when a church or synagogue has become wholly corrupt. If one loves God and believes that he has walked among us, that Jesus is, as Moses worded it ‘God standing upon the earth,’ they will go out and live his decent, godly life, and they shall inherit the Resurrection. Well, if you have a few quirky ideas and you can’t fully understand it all, that does not matter to the soul. God does not judge you by your level of knowledge. If he did, we’re all in trouble.

How can this site be called Jewish, in that you believe that Jesus is “God with us”?

Just like in the above answer, there were and are unlearned Jews who do not know the scriptures. They comprise the vast element called “Club Jew” that basically think Judaism is as they wish to proffer it at any time. There is one site http://www.geocities.com/realjewsforjesus/MJFAQ.html that despite its title of “realjewsforjesus” is an anti-missionary site. The author of the site, aside from frequently revealing he knows very little scripture and often reflects no solid evidence of knowledge in Judaism, uses some very peculiar, if not simple arguments. Such as:

1. God is not a man

Quite correct. He is also not a bush. He is not a temple. Nor mortar, stone and wood out of which a temple is built. Yet his Spirit spoke from a bush. He also declared he would place his Spirit at the Temple. Yet God fills heaven and earth. He cannot be limited. He cannot be seen as he is. Even the angels have not seen him. Yet Moses declared he would see God with his own eyes; that his redeemer was alive and yet would stand on the earth at the latter day. Moses’ Song of Departure places God on earth lifting his hand to heaven. The son born to us in Isaiah would be called “the Mighty God.” Abraham saw 3 men, and one he called God.

We are flesh. Into us God breathed his spirit, and Adam, that shell made from the dust, lived. We are men. The body came first, and the soul brought it to life. But for God who is spirit and cannot be seen as he is, well, to make himself  a body-- well, that is very simple. We are flesh first into which God breathed his Spirit. God coming to dwell amongst us in a body would obviously not be the same thing. His Spirit came first! Then the tabernacle was created. Long before the world was he created his tabernacle so even the angels could see him. Inseparable-- a body and yet not man as we are. Jesus’ spirit is not a separate, man’s spirit. His Spirit is God’s own holy spirit. Incomprehensible. A mind and soul that is not man’s; yet dwelling in a body. A mind and soul not a Temple, yet dwelling in an inner sanctum. A mind and soul filling heaven and earth; and yet not limited to heaven and earth.

Pagans, all being sons of Noah, preserved a memory of the great Deus Pater-- Father of Heaven-- of Proto-Indo-European language. He was the sole God. Ancient man was monotheistic until he delved more into his own pagan ideas. God was warped into many idols and representations of Deus Pater-- Jupiter, Zeus, Div, Tues, Ammon, the formless one. But because God revealed himself to Abraham Jews had not lost the memory that the living God was being recalled in God or Father of Heaven. By the time of Cyrus, Dyaus Pita was only one among other gods. As his name meant “Father of Heaven,” he became only one god maintaining his territory of Heaven. Thus when Cyrus declared that the “God of Heaven” has commanded him to build him a temple in Jerusalem, he believed he was re-erecting a fallen temple to one of the gods in the pantheon.

Pagans twisted God, even his name, falling into ignorance and forsaking the heritage given them by their father Noah. Did they also twist the instinct God placed in us that he would walk among us? It is not overtly stated to Moses that “that prophet” would be God with us. . . but he understood it nonetheless, either by inflection or repetition. By God declaring at Horeb he would not speak directly except through “that prophet” to come, Moses’ song placed God on earth, and his book of Job declared that he would see God on earth. He understood that no man as we are will be able to speak directly for God. Pagans may have warped God’s plan into many gods taking form and incubi. But it does not stem from pagans.

We can never see God as he is. The angels can never see God as he is. Yet even the man of God said he would see God upon the Earth, and Abraham called “a man” God. God is not a man. Man is what his spirit is. God is what His Spirit is. God can easily fashion himself a body. He made a beautiful creation in human kind. Only man has warped and degraded it. Not God. He has done it honour by knowing he must be seen of us. We must have some point of contact with him. He has walked among us. When you see Jesus one day, you will know the difference. You will not be seeing a man. You will know you are seeing Emmanuel.

Think about this: ancient Jews awaited the coming of the “Son of Man” of the Book of Enoch, he who went with God and with whom righteousness dwelt. He existed before the world was. Even before human kind was created in bodily form, this was the pattern God used amongst the angels. Even knowing that God is not man, they believed and understood the Book of Enoch’s statements.

2. The Messiah must come from the male heritage.

No where is that stipulated. The prophecy is for a virgin of the House of David to conceive. The anti-missionary site proffers 2 Samuel 7, 12-13, though that is not discussing a male lineage.

The author of  the deceptive “real Jews for Jesus” also states: “There are a number of other Messianic prophecies that Jesus did not fulfill. Here are just a few: World Peace did not come at the time of Jesus (Isaiah 2:1-4), the entire world did not acknowledge G-d as the one true G-d (Zechariah 14:9), the Holy Temple was not rebuilt (Ezekiel 37: 26-28) and Jesus did not gather the Jewish people from all of the earth to land of Israel (Isaiah 11:10-12). There are many other Messianic prophecies that Jesus did not fulfill, the above were just a few of the major failures.”

Zechariah 14 is not even speaking about the coming of the Messiah. Nor does Isaiah 2, 1-4; Isaiah 11 speaks of a remnant, not all Jews. The same as in Isaiah 49. As in Isaiah 11, the Gentiles will seek him, which they certainly did Jesus. Ezekiel 37, 26-28 also has nothing to do with the coming Messiah. The prophecies in Malachi make it clear the temple is already standing when the Messiah appears.

This author, by his often dogmatic, terse, and unsupported assertions, reveals that perhaps he hung around a couple of Christians who don’t know scripture that well, or he uses his own exegetical straw man arguments. There is some doubt by his manner that he is even an educated Jew.

Is the Book of Ben Kathryn an additional book to the Bible? Are you his disciples?

John ben Kathryn is forbidden disciples and, frankly, doesn’t care for any. He is allowed one permanent assistant (an “Elisha”) if needed. Jewish prophets eventually record or are told to write down the prophetic utterances. In that sense the “book” of John ben Kathryn is called a book, as Isaiah or Jeremiah. It is meant to be understood with, and indeed cannot be understood without, the entire corpus of prophetic books. It is not a handbook of a sect, a group, a cult, or any such thing. Jews really aren’t subject to much of that. You have to read it to understand its language. Accepting or rejecting a book in a corpus of others doesn’t really alter its content. The Book of Enoch has long fallen into disuse. . . but it was the most popular book at the time of Christ. Many of his sayings use it as an illustrative backdrop. The entire “Son of Man” analogy comes from Enoch.  Enoch should become mandatory reading for this purpose alone. . . though every word is not inspired.

If what the book of ben Kathryn declares comes to past, Jews will have no option but to add it to the corpus of prophetic books. That will be a long day off, one which no one here will see. There will no doubt be other prophets to come and other “books” to study that will form a body that warns and guides and yet speaks the same as the compiled classical prophets. That is the wonderful mystery of the Spirit of God: how his spirit speaks through his prophets for the times present and yet it guides through the future times to come, and yet in retrospect true prophets have all said the same thing.

Non Jews are subject to cults where their followers get new knowledge and means of attaining righteousness. A true prophet of God, to use a modern analogy from popular culture, is more like a Jedi Knight. They serve God and are usually rogues. John ben Kathryn can preach, teach, appoint and anoint, hire and fire, he can judge in matters spiritual and amongst the prophets . . .but he may not exercise political authority, civil judgment and administration. He cannot broker donations, earn wages as a prophet or convey or re-convey money. He may not be dependent on another person in such matters.

The reasons for this are very simple: God requires the heart in all who come to him. If a prophet had the ability to set up a theocracy, the appearance of society would only be a veneer. Thus God’s prophets tell people what is right. God’s spirit goes about to see if the people hearken unto his words to do them from a right heart. But if prophets could command, the heart of the people would not be changed. It would be caged behind deceit and compulsion. Moses could command because God gave him laws and provisions for a society to thrive by. David could be king, but still not break the laws of God. Samuel could judge the people, but he could not dictate to them. They refused to keep to the laws and words of God and became a gross society in which a man could divide a woman into 12 pieces and parcel post her around Israel. Everybody did what was right in their own eyes. God told Samuel they have not rejected Samuel, but they have rejected God. For this let them have a king . . .but God warned a king would have his way. He will stop all the extreme lawlessness . . .but in the long run he will get his way over the people. The complete solution was to hearken to God’s laws . . .but they would not. They preferred a king to enforce the appearance of righteousness. Man chose Saul . . .God would choose David.

So you see why God limits a true prophet’s power. God is forever testing man. Will they listen or will they not? A prophet may call people “sons of snakes” for not listening, but he cannot force them to shed their skin.

God knows people don’t know and cannot comprehend all things. Therefore he does not judge by your knowledge. But you know what is right. He will judge you as you have judged others. You have no excuse there. You can’t say to that: “I didn’t know how I treated others.”